Dan, I would further pursue the story and look at the $3.3 that the Cotton Kings say they have brought into the city? Further, regarding previous segments on the visitor center there is a nice parallel here with San Angelo. San Angelo has a beautiful visitor center but I'm not going to go on a trip to visit the visitor center. They may however have our hockey team and I might spend the money to go see them sometime. That would most likely be on a weekend when the visitor center is closed anway, rendering it utterly useless to me the visitor. I may now, have to go to Amarillo or Odessa for that matter to see Tech or one of their pro teams. The misinformation campaign on both the Cotton Kings' and the city of Lubbock's parts is overwhelming, and the vast majority of the population who don't follow hockey or politics as closely as many fans and I do need some real information. I really enjoy your segment and I hope you can shed more light on this situation. Thanks.
Mr. Dan Jackson,
As a former employee of the LCK...I agree and have seen first hand how the team has struggled over the past couple of years. However, I agree that if the City of Lubbock would provide the Kings with a mutually beneficial concession and beer sales agreement, the team wouldn't be struggling as much as they are now. Yes, group sales is an important aspect of the team, but the LCK have supported the local communities in various ways such as the Kids Day game, appearances, giveaways and donations.
Hockey is unique to this area and the City should try to hold on to such a unique sport and support the ONLY minor league professional hockey team in the area before they are gone. Local children have the opportunity to learn how to ice skate, Tech has branched out to have an ice hockey team and more. Without the Lubbock Cotton Kings, the community wouldn't have this added value and quality of life this team brings to our community.
The LCK have also closed a naming rights deal with City Bank - isn't the City of Lubbock receiving additional revenue from this? I wish the LCK much success and a resolution to this ongoing negotiation with the City of Lubbock. Consider this Mr. Dan Jackson, find out what other sports hockey teams are receiving in concession and beer revenues vs. our local sports franchise. Is it comparative?
To whom it may concern,
I watch kcbd every night at ten, and even have it to record on my DVR in case I am out of town for the weekend. I have recently watched the consider this on the Lubbock Cotton Kings. I have to disagree with what has been said. I strongly disagree with the city councils' decision to not have the Cotton Kings back or not signing them for another three year contract. The lubbock city council leases the building to the Cotton Kings at the Cotton Kings expense. Everything that is sold in that arena during games affects the Cotton Kings, not the city of Lubbock. If the Cotton Kings are not selling enough tickets then it is their problem and loss, not the city councils. I believe it should be up to the citezens of Lubbock who go to every game of the Cotton Kings and even the fans that don't attend to decide if they come back or not. I love going to the games and wish the city council would just sign the lease so I can enjoy going to the games every time they have one. I remember when we had the competition for everyone to decide the name of the mascot. I remember being a kid and entering the contest. It is going to be a shame to see them go and I strongly disagree with the city councils decision. I love going to the games and sooner or later the city council is going to eventually take every fun sport we have around here away. At first it was the Crickets, then the Renagades, now it is going to be the Cotton Kings. Now, the Renagades are back but for how long? How short is it going to be before the city council takes away that sport and entertainment for us. I am a tax-payer of Lubbock and believe I should have a say in what events get to stay and what events get to go.
DAN JACKSON CONSIDER THIS..............MAYBE PEOPLE IN LUBBOCK WANT SOMETHING OTHER THAN FOOTBALL AS A SPORT TO WATCH. THE CITY COUNCIL NEEDS TO OPEN THEIR MINDS AND THINK THAT MAYBE PEOPLE WANT TO WATCH SOMETHING OTHER THAN FOOTBALL. WHEN AND IF THE COTTONKINGS LEAVE OR IN MY OPINION ARE BOOTED OUT OF THE KINGDOM THEY NOT ONLY TAKE AWAY HOCKEY THEY WILL TAKE AWAY SOME ACTUAL PHYSICAL ACTIVITY THAT CHILDREN DESPERATELY NEED. YOU TAKE AWAY SEVERAL CHARITIES THAT THE COTTONKINGS ARE INVOLVED WITH. THAT WERE NOT A PART OF THIS COMMUNITY UNTIL THEY CAME. AND ONE MORE THING TOTALLY OFF SUBJECT. I WATCH THE NEWS TO GET THE FACTS ABOUT WHAT IS GOING ON IN THE WORLD NOT GET DAN JACKSON'S OPINION ON ANYTHING ESP. THE COTTON KINGS.
It would be hard to make the call unless you were able to see the numbers that are being bounced back and forth.
Here is one of the more interesting documents that has surfaced, detailing the increased cost for the Cotton Kings, and the wildly different amounts that have been agreed to.
It surfaced on the fan message board Welcome to the Kingdom. The website address is: http://p223.ezboard.com/fthekingscourtthekingscourt
The hockey team takes a heck of a lot of money and committment to operate, so comparing it to the Renegades is like apples and oranges. The Renegades can pick up and play almost anywhere. The Cotton Kings do not have that liberty with the ice plant and the complexities of that.
This year, the city asked the team to fork over rougly $183,000 for a new ice plant, but can't guarantee that they'll be allowed to play for more than one year. The city saw that as a "reasonable offer", but what businessman in his right mind would spend that kind of money without the assurance that it wouldn't just sit idle when the city pulled their stunt again next year? The Cotton Kings owners agreed to pay that money PLUS the exorbitant rent (3 times last year's amount), but required a 3-year deal.
The city owns the building, so the city should pay for maintenance. Just like any apartment dweller, the landlord should be expected to maintain general upkeep. The City's staff embarrassed the Cotton Kings (and themselves, frankly) last season when they were unable to put the glass back in correctly. The fans from Amarillo were annoyed that they'd come for "nothing" and the entire league was abuzz about the incident.
I'd encourage the folks in the media to ask more questions of the city. This whole situation is complicated as can be and has roots that spread far and wide. The main question is, why does Civic Lubbock get the money for the naming rights (from City Bank)? The deal was brokered by the Cotton Kings to benefit themselves and the city, yet the money is funnelled through Civic Lubbock to make it appear as though the citizens are paying money to sustain the team.
One of our city's leaders (possibly Mayor Miller) said that it would cost the city the same amount of money whether the Cotton Kings were in place or not. The decision to eliminate a tourist draw, international, national and regional attention, and the benefits that are given by the generous efforts of the players and staff are kaput. Not to mention, figure skating, youth hockey and Texas Tech hockey that will all go away as a result of this.
Neither the City nor the Cotton Kings ownership are completely to blame for this fiasco, and likewise, they both hold a lot of the responsibility. I can't say who is more to blame, but much of this is drama for the sake of drama and people trying to outbluff the other side.
Please have someone look into the financial dealings that have to do with City Bank's $500,000 that was given to the city. With the auditorium shut down (after a brand new sign was put in place), I'd think that the folks at City Bank are getting rather concerned with where their money is going. As far as we know, right now, it's going to Civic Lubbock.
Bottom line, things would go much more smoothly if the Cotton Kings could get out from under the heel of the City and Civic Lubbock. They would be able to control their own "destiny" as it were, and there wouldn't be the yearly drama. It's not such a simple solution though, with the expense of an ice rink factoring in to the decision.
Thanks for your time.
My understanding is that the Cotton Kings (LCK) and the City both agreed that the deal was a good deal for both. LCK are asking for a 3-year deal. The ice plant has got to be replaced. This is going to cost over $150.000. LCK owners are willing to pay for that, but did not want to invest that much with only a 1-year lease. I can't blame them and I don't think that is too much to ask. If the deal was such a good deal for the City, and LCK agreed as well, why not make it a 3-year deal?
I know the mayor and city council want to condemn the coliseum,so they will have an excuse to tear it down and force the taxpayers to fork over the money to build a new facility. It would certainly be easier to do, if the Kings were not using it for 6-7 months out of the year.
I have been a LCK season ticket holder for the past five years. My husband and I do not attend any other sporting events in town, except Texas Tech Hockey, which by the way will be forced out of town, if they are able to continue at all. Because they are a Club and not funded by Tech Athletics, the players themselves have to fork over quite a bit of money. Having to travel to Amarillo or Odessa just to practice and for all "home" games will probably be more expensive than most of them can afford. They were one of the best teams in the nation this past season, and it would be a shame to lose that.
The ice also has multiple other uses during hockey season. There are several students in town learning how to figure skate. Who knows where that could potentially lead for some young person from Lubbock, Texas. There is a bigger picture here than just Lubbock Cotton Kings hockey. This organization touches a lot of people in a lot of ways that no one has thought about. The "Stick with Reading" program is just one of those outreach programs. LCK also has a fundraiser each year and they have contributed quite a bit of money to local charities and families over the years.
Ticket sales may have dwindled, but there is a very strong core group of fans in this area. If the owners are willing to hang in there, so are the fans. The deal that was on the table was a good deal for the City, so why not make it a 3-year deal. It would at least give us all a couple of years of not hearing about this back-and-forth business between the Kings and the City. Also, it would give the Kings a chance to start their recruiting process immediately after the season in March, instead of late summer. How can they be expected to put a good product on the ice, when they spend the summer negotiating for a place to play instead of securing a coach and team. No player or coach wants to sign until they know they have a place to play. Last year it was the first part of August before the lease was agreed upon and finalized. The season started on October 14th. You do the math. Not much time to put a team together and get a quality product on the ice. This yearly summer banter between the City and the Kings needs a break. Thus a multi-year contract. Again, I do not think this is too much to ask.
Thanks for your comments and allowing me to make my comments.
Well usually I would say that you are right on, but this time you need to get all your facts straight. First off yes the numbers for CottonKings games have dwindle over the years. But the numbers you showed on the screen are from the city council and not the "official" tickets sold.
Second, the city needs to pony up and help pay for the new ice plant that would be needed for this years season since the CottonKings sold it too the city over 3 years ago. So since its was the city's propoerty then why should the CottonKings have to pay for the full cost a second time.
Third, if the city really wants to keep try and keep the Kings like they said they did, then why in the world would they offer them a contract where it states that the Kinsg can have full consession stand revenue, but however the cannot use the consession stand areas located in the building. That makes alot of sense. What are the Kings suppose to do see hot dogs and cokes out of collers on the concourse?
Fourth, you say you and your boys enjoy the Renegades games and will go back. Well I hope you enjoy the last three games the Rengades have this year cause if the CottonKings go...so do the Renegades. You can say they have accepted a great deal this year and the Kings should learn from them. Well you need to learn to get the facts straight, because once this season is over if the Kings arent playing in the City Bank Colisium, neither are the Renegades because Mr. Miller and his band of idiots on the city council are going to do what they have wanted to do all along and that is sell the property back to Texas Tech and get rid of Professional sports in Lubbock once and for all.
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